Camp fire Friday: Do any of you get frustrated trying to describe experiences?

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June 18, 2019 / By Amie
Question: This is open to everyone, but especially my fellow Pagans. I often find it difficult to find words that adequately express what I do. People often ask about paganism and magic, but when they get to direct questions about my experiences, I think language is very limited in conveying those ideas and experiences...
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Washington Washington | 8 days ago
Are there any rituals you could share which might help gain a common understanding? People who've taken DMT often report having a similar range of otherworldly experiences (for a bunch of case studies look up the book by Rick Strassman on his research project about DMT). Granted this is a drug experience, but at least there's some commonality between people who take it if nothing else due to human anatomy; the brain responds in similar ways to similar stimuli in people. The experiences themselves vary widely, but probably whatever physiological changes occur are applied using a similar mechanism in the brain's uptake and manipulation of the DMT molecule. Also native Americans who've taken Peyote report similarities among their experiences. That these are self-fulfilling prophecies that come about as a result of hearing about others' trips seems entirely possible though... Anyway, not to advocate drug use, but maybe try to find some way to convey your ideas that involves laying down your ideas and experiences on a "storyboard" of sorts that could get your message across? Through art, music, some combination?
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Washington Originally Answered: Unmarried converts to Judaism: Can you describe your experiences?
I'm not sure what marital status has to do with it. Anyway: I had been interested in Judaism since I was about eight years old, when I first had occasion to visit a synagogue. For roughly 30 years after that, I slowly learned more about Judaism, but had no idea that one could convert. I seemed to encounter a lot of Jewish influences (for lack of a better word) - everything from books to films to people in my life. I was always curious, but didn't want to give offense - although I knew Jewish people, I didn't feel that I knew any well enough to start to ask questions. Then, when I was about 38, my son was in a Scout troop with two brothers who were Jewish, and one of the brothers died very suddenly, when he was only about 15 years old. I saw the customs surrounding that death, and more importantly, I saw the tremendous support that their synagogue gave the family. After the year of mourning was up, and the remaining son and the parents started to participate in the troop again, I got to know the parents better, and finally screwed up the courage to start asking questions. They were quite willing to answer, but didn't push. Not long after that, I ran across an article in the Dallas Morning News about Outreach Judaism, and learned FINALLY that a person could convert to Judaism. It still took me a while to get up the nerve to go to talk with a rabbi. I finally did, though, and as they say, the rest is history. I converted to Judaism in 1997, and it's one of the best decisions I ever made in my life. I personally had already done a lot of reading simply out of curiousity, but there were distinct gaps in my knowledge. That's where the rabbi came in, and helped me to learn the other things that I needed to know. I went through a "Beginning Judaism" class at a synagogue in Arlington, Texas (yes - there ARE Jews in Texas!); I was the only person in the class who wasn't either married to someone Jewish, or planning to do so. I did get a bit of - not exactly discouragement - but neutrality from the rabbi for a time, until a couple of discussions had taken place, and a couple of things had occurred with the church that I had previously attended and its minister (that would take a lot of explanation, but suffice it to say that it was good enough for the rabbi to start to actively encourage my efforts). After about 8 months of study, attending services, and studying Hebrew (I'm pretty good with languages), I realized I was ready. I converted officially, and have been happily Jewish ever since - or that's what I thought - because there's more. A couple of years later, I started doing genealogy as a hobby. I learned that my great-great grandparents came from Germany around 1845-1850 - and they were Jewish! My GG grandmother died when she was only 26 years old (probably due to diptheria - her eldest son also died within days); I'm a descendant of her only daughter. My GG grandfather remarried, and his second wife was Christian. My great-grandmother was only about eight at the time, and was subsequently raised Christian. The relationship is down the direct maternal line - she was the mother of my maternal grandmother; I was Jewish all along :-) Some things... perhaps they're meant to be. In any case, that's my story. It was far from an ordeal - it was a wonderful experience! Shalom.

Ryley Ryley
Yes, and not just about pagan matters. There are so many things which are largely internal, and which cannot be described to someone else because you don't know what goes on inside them, or what experiences they have had. What good would it do for me to say "It's sort of like an acid trip" if they've never done acid?
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Murdo Murdo
Constantly and not just in describing religious experiences. Neither English or any other language with which I have more than a passing experience has the vocabulary to describe complex emotional states. BTW GT Gypsy - just for the record - I have participated in more than one midnight ritual in the all-together. I also knew a guy who got arrested for it, not knowing the neighbor's dog had knocked out just enough slats in his fence to completely shock them.
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Kendal Kendal
No, I have a pretty standard answer now. LOL I can get snarky at times, especially with other pagans on the magic thing. It usually goes something like this" "So what kind of magic do you practice?" Me: "I don't practice magic." "How can you be a witch and not practice magic?" "I'm not a witch, I am Heathen." "So you don't do magic?" And finally to get them to shut up I say. "You know I do practice magic. I cast a spell to get people to stop asking me if I practice magic but apparently I didn't do it right because it's not working." They get the point.
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Hilary Hilary
If you have been reading all the questions, you will realize that the Trolls HAVE been baiting us. Their problem is that the average Pagan is smarter than the average Troll. This is because many Pagans came from other Religions. WE learned, and made an EDUCATED CHOICE. I know of very few Pagans born to their Faith
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Elric Elric
Yes, especially online. The lack of facial expression, body movement and tone of voice for clues to meaning and emphasis really limits me.
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Clare Clare
Yes - I'm not that eloquent to begin with and when I try to express something like that, what little skills I have totally fail. I'm not that good at explaining my opinions either. Yet, I continually want to share them with world.... hmm.... I think there's a word for that, but it escapes me.
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Clare Originally Answered: WW2 concentration camp.?
I watch my dying comrades around me. How I am filled with joy knowing that soon Germany will be free of my kind and the rightful masters shall take my place. I cannot wait to die. As the Zyklon B is poured over my family my heart flutters in anticipation, soon I will no longer have to suffer. However I feel bad that all my money is going to be lost. I hate sharing it. Oh well when i'm in heaven as God's chosen people all will be well. Bet buisness is good up there. I could own a bank.

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