I want to dress up as a geisha.?
Topic: I want to dress up as a geisha.?
April 22, 2019 / By Suellen Question:
Hello! I really want to dress up as a geisha. However I don't know where to get an authentic kimono (not a yukata or some bathrobe). Also, when you buy a kimono are all the underclothing included (collar, obi, etc) automatically or do I have to buy that separately? If yes, then how many parts a kimono have? I think socks and Japanese shoes/slippers should be included. Also, I need a geisha wig and the make up. I found this website for kimonos http://www.japanesestyle.com/catalog/clo... However I don't know whether they are "real" kimonos (looks like it). I would really appreciate if you could give me any ideas/information on how to dress up as a geisha and where can I buy all the things from. Note: I live in India (not everyone delivers here). Thank you so much in advance.
PS Thank you so much for your answers. I have read "Memoirs of a Geisha" and some Japanese books where geishas used to be characters but I was never really interested what they wear. However now I want to do something exciting, like dressing up as a geisha (at home, of course). Just want to know how realistic this wish is.
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Rachelle | 6 days ago
Well first of all, when you say you want to dress like a geisha, do you mean you want to dress like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kyotomaikoc... or like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]
? It's an important distinction. The first girl is a maiko (apprentice geisha) and the second is an actual geisha. The next question is, just how authentic do you want to look? The more authentic you want to look, the more expensive this is going to cost you to do. The vast majority of kimono-shopping websites out there do NOT sell items appropriate for maiko or geisha to wear. However, someone doing cosplay could potentially fake the look, it just takes a little work and study. Things from the website you linked are not going to work (and yes, you will generally have to buy the parts separately, especially for a geisha outfit).
The parts (as I know them) for geisha and maiko outfits are:
- hikuzuri/susohiki. Should have long furisode-style sleeves with tucks in the sleeves and shoulders for a maiko, but shorter sleeves for a geisha.
- Obi. Maiko wear a long style called darari obi, while geisha wear a shorter style that can be tied in the taiko musubi at the back.
- Obi age. Generally red with silver patterns for a junior maiko, though more senior ones who have switched to tying theirs may use plain red. Geisha can use other colors, but red and white are common.
- Obi jime. Always flat, multi-colored, and rather wide for a maiko (exception: they often skip the obi jime and obi dome for very formal outfits). Geisha can wear thick round ones or flat, narrow ones.
- Obi dome. Typically only seen on maiko, they are HUGE and very expensive.
- Juban. Maiko usually wear a two-piece juban. The skirt and sleeves are usually red with a white pattern, though you sometimes see a gold pattern for more formal outfits. Geisha juban are similar, though they can wear other colors (especially pink) instead of red.
- Han eri. A collar that attaches to the collar of the juban and is visible as part of the kimono outfit. Geisha and very senior maiko usually have white han eri. Junior maiko have red han eri with varying levels of white embroidery on the collar (more white = more senior). A maiko in her last week of maiko-hood usually wear a red and gold collar.
- Tabi. Maiko and geisha always wear white tabi.
- Footwear: Maiko often wear high wooden sandals call okobo or pokkuri. Geisha usually wear zori. Every so often you run into a maiko who also wear zori.
- Hair ornaments: Geisha hair ornaments are simple and usually consist of a single comb and a pin or two, though there are variations for special occasions and the like. Maiko typically wear many more ornaments, including masses of fabric flowers, several pins, and a silver fan-shaped kanzashi at the front. The maiko's hair style and the style of her accessories change as she advances.
- Wig: Only geisha wear wigs. Maiko typically style their own hair.
- Makeup: Both maiko and geisha wear oshiroi/shiro-nuri (the white makeup). A maiko changes how she paints her lips as he training progresses, and she may wear a bit more pink around the eyes as a junior than as a senior or a geisha.
Buying authentic versions of these items is nearly impossible (especially for darari obi, which often get cut down and reused for geisha when the maiko are done with them) and extremely expensive, to the tune of hundreds or thousands of dollars even for second-hand and very damaged items. Even if you managed to get everything second-hand, putting together the outfit would run you several thousand dollars. I'm assuming that's not something you want to get into just for some fun in your house. If that's the case, I would suggest choosing to try the geisha look instead of the maiko look, and doing a bit of research to find reasonably acceptable substitutes. For example, if you can find a susohiki that's great, but a very long tomesode or houmongi might be more in your budget. You can probably find an inexpensive pink juban that will work by itself, of you could alter it to be the right length. You might want to visit the Immortal Geisha forums. There are a lot of people there who have tried faking the geisha look and can suggest good substitutes. You can also learn more about regular kimono and how to wear them in case you decide to just give regular everyday kimono-wearing a try.
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Originally Answered: I want too become a Geisha?
Short answer: There is pretty much a 99.99% chance that this will be completely impossible, so while I'm not going to tell you to give up completely I AM going to tell you that you need to come up with something a little more realistic to do that would also make you happy in the very likely event that this doesn't pan out.
Long answer: It's pretty much impossible for a non-Japanese person to become a geisha. So far, there are only two documented cases of it happening, and one possible case I don't know as much about. In both of the cases I definitely know about, both of the women had some rally extraordinary circumstances working in their favor.
The first woman, Liza Dalby, worked as a geisha in Kyoto's Pontocho district for two years while she was working on her Ph.D. in anthropology. She had been studying Japanese culture for years at that point, was fluent in Japanese, and already played the shamisen well enough that they could say that was her art. Her original plan had been to just remain and outside and study the geisha through observations and interviews, but the geisha themselves suggested that she become one of them for a short time so she could experience the life first-hand. She never intended to make it a career and I strongly suspect that if she had tried, it would have been much more difficult.
The second woman, Fiona Graham, is also an anthropologist (she also has degrees in other fields I believe). She lived in Japan long enough to graduate from a Japanese high school and ultimately from a Japanese university, so not only was she fluent in the Japanese language, but she also knew a lot of details about the Japanese culture. She currently works in Tokyo as the geisha Sayuki. It appears that her work began as a research project too but has since grown into her being an actual geisha and working in the profession long-term.
The third case I don't know much about involves a European woman who appears to be working with one of the smaller groups of geisha who are not centered in Kyoto or Tokyo, but I haven't been able to find much information about her, how she got there, or what she's doing.
Basically, as a foreigner, you have a lot working against you. You don't know the basic details of Japanese culture ever Japanese girl knows and that every geisha is expected to know without training. You don't know the specialized things they need to learn, like the special local dialects or how to wear and move in kimono. You aren't fluent in Japanese and right now you don't know any of their arts, and even if you could find teachers there is the possibility that you wouldn't learn the appropriate styles for geisha life. And you also have to keep in mind that most of the JAPANESE girls who try to become geisha fail -- I have heard that something like 2/3 of the girls who try never make it past the shikomi stage.
My suggestions to you would be to study geisha from something other than "Memoirs of a Geisha." Start studying Japanese, and if you can find teachers for shamisen and Japanese dance see if you can take lessons. Study about Japanese culture as much as you can. Visit Japan when you get the chance to see what it's really like there. But come up with something else to do, because the chances are that even if you become fluent in Japanese this plan isn't going to pan out. It's tough, but you do have to be realistic about these things.
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I want to dress up as a geisha.?
Hello! I really want to dress up as a geisha. However I don't know where to get an authentic kimono (not a yukata or some bathrobe). Also, when you buy a kimono are all the underclothing included (collar, obi, etc) automatically or do I have to buy that separately? If yes, then how many parts a...
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I hope you have a lot of money because they aren't cheap. Most things are separate...most are custom made. No...the socks and sandals are not always included.
I suggest you actually research the clothing that a geisha wears. It all has meaning. If you want to be authentic, you need to understand those meanings and how to wear certain parts a certain way.
Go to a library, look it up on a search engine, read books, go to an Asian community center.
But, more importantly....learn what and who geishas were. You sound like you don't have a clue and you really need to know if you're going to dress up like one.
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Do you just want to wear kimono or do you really want to dress up like geisha with their authentic costumes? Your web link is just a kimono catalogues, nothing to do with geisha.
I am positive that real geisha costume including Kimono, Obi, Tabi, Zori, Wig and make-up items, would cost at least 2 million yen. Since they are 'professional,' everything they wear is genuinely authentic, which is far from the items you can buy from that kimono list on the net. They are not sold outside Japan; you should come to Japan to buy everything one by one (nothing comes with Geisha Kimono, which is at least one million yen).
If you are really rich that you can purchase everything to dress up exactly like authentic geisha, I shut up my mouth. But, you need to come to Japan anyway. No items pertaining to real geisha is available on the net.
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Even though things in school never change, everyone dresses up because they are excited about the possibility that this year will be different. It is a chance at a new beginning and even teachers dress up because they think "maybe this year will be different." By the third day reality sinks in and everyone realizes that it is still the same BS so why bother with the dress up effort.