the trinity. what is it exactly?
Topic: the trinity. what is it exactly?
June 18, 2019 / By Adreana Question:
i mean is it that the father, the son and the holy ghost are all the same? i am kinda confused on this...
so if they are the same thing doesnt the holy bible contradict itself .... i am so confused.... lol
Best Answers: the trinity. what is it exactly?
Terrance | 7 days ago
Question: "What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?"
Answer: The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to adequately explain it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are, therefore we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean it is not true or not based on the teachings of the Bible.
Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word "Trinity" is not used in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God, the fact that there are three coexistent, co-eternal persons that make up God. Understand that this is NOT in any way suggesting three Gods. The Trinity is one God made up of three persons. There is nothing wrong with using the term "Trinity" even though the word is not found in the Bible. It is shorter to say the word "Trinity" than to say "three coexistent, co-eternal persons making up one God." If this presents a problem to you, consider this: the word grandfather is not used in the Bible either. Yet, we know there were grandfathers in the Bible. Abraham was the grandfather of Jacob. What should be of real importance is that the concept that is represented by the word "Trinity" does exist in Scripture. With the introduction out of the way, Bible verses will be given in discussion of the Trinity.
1) There is one God: Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5.
2) The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. That "Elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is without question. In English, we only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms—definitely more than two—and must be referring to three or more, in this case Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct persons in the Trinity.
3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages: In the Old Testament, "LORD" is distinguished from "Lord" (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from "God" (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament John 14:16-17, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit. This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all of the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another person in the Trinity—the Father.
4) Each member of the Trinity is God: The Father is God: John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2. The Son is God: John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God: Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16. (The One who indwells is the Holy Spirit - Romans 8:9; John 14:16-17; Acts 2:1-4).
5) The subordination within the Trinity: Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see: Luke 22:42; John 5:36; John 20:21; 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see: John 14:16; 14:26; 15:26; 16:7 and especially John 16:13-14.
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Originally Answered: is it possible for a mormon to believe in the trinity?
Charles Darwin failed miserably in his quest to validate his argument on Evolution.
God created the Heaven and Earth as the Holy Bible declares (Genesis 1:1). Don't put faith in theories. Have faith in God.
Charles Darwin did not use good logic in his famous book, "The Origin of Species."
W.R. Thompson, a Canadian entomologist(entomology-study of insects) of international repute, wrote in his introduction to the centennial edition of Darwin's Origen, "Darwin did not show in the Origin that species had originated by natural selection; he merely showed, on the basis of certain facts and assumptions, how this might have happened, and as he had convinced himself he was able to convince others.
Chapter 4 of the Origin, entitled "Natural Selection; or the Survival of the Fittest," occupies 44 pages in the 1958 mentor edition. In this chapter Darwin used the language of speculation, imagination, and assumption at least 187 times. For example, pages 118 and 119 contain the following phrases; "may have been," "is supposed to," perhaps," "If we suppose," "may still be," 'it is probable," "will generally tend," "may" "will generally tend," 'If," 'if...assumed," "supposed," "supposed," "probably," "It seems, therefore, extremely probable," and "We may suppose." Is this really the language of science? No, it is not.
Of Darwin's speculative arguments Thompson wrote, "....Personal convictions, simple possibilities, are presented as if they were proofs, or at least valid arguments in favor of the theory....The demonstration can be modified without difficulty to fit any conceivable case. It is without scientific value, since it cannot be verified; but since the imagination has free rein, it is easy to convey the impression that a concrete example of real transmutation (change of one species to another) has been given."
Source: Thompson, W.R., Introduction to The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin, E.P. Dutton and Co., New York.
Have faith dear friends in God, not theories.
The central doctrine of religions of Christendom. According to the Athanasian Greed, there are three divine persons (the father, the son and the holy ghost), each said to be eternal, each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one GOd.
BUt what does the Bible have to say about that. NOTHING
The New Encyclopedia Britannica says: Neither that word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament. The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. By the end of the 4th century the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: The formulation one God in three Persons was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. Butit is prscisely this formulation that has first claim to the tltle the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there, had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality of perspective.
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The Bible does not contradict its self if totally studyed. The trinity is made up of the Father, Son And Holy Spirit. We are also made up in three soul, body , spirit. However we are for from holy and we are not getting any younger, so we will eventually die. If we trust in The Son God, we can have eternal life. With Him the Bible says there is no other way. I am not trying to preach here but God sent His son Jesus to die for us. When we trust in him then the Holy Spirit comes in to dwell in us and to guide us. I will quite here because to understand every thing about what you are questioning I really don't think there is any one who understands very little about God other than He loves us.
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God is described with different words in the Bible, a few of which translate into English as LORD, Lord, the LORD almighty, God, God Almighty and so forth. When reading these in different places in the Bible, you become aware that although God is “one” He is also “more than one”—God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost). Together, they are referred to as “the Trinity” or “the Godhead.” On this page we will provide explanations that help people understand God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Trinity.
God is not so complex that He can not be understood. The Bible is written so that anyone can understand Him. The difference is that God is not human, so He can not be described as a human can be described. The gods of every other religion can be described in “normal” terms since they were invented in the minds of men.* Even some “Christians” (actually Christian cults) invent their own description of God and make Him seem like these other gods (by denying the aspect of the Trinity). On this page we will clarify the Trinity so that you can understand this aspect of God.
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trinity is not logic.God has no son.u can not compare God with human.it is ridicules to believe that God like humans has a child.holy ghost is just an angel and did all God ordered him.jesus birth was a miracle.and holy ghost just told mary that she is pregnant and congratulate her.in muslim's holly quran God compare jesus birth with adam.and says that if it is impossible that a child with just mother & with no father was born so how u believe in adam who has neither a mother nor father.in quran God says many times that jesus is a messenger and one of best humans and one of the greatest prophets.and god has denied trinity there.GOD IS ONE.jesus and holy ghost are not GODs.
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they are all god
they are all omnipotent and omnipresent
Jesus made many statements saying he was God.
He had the power to take his life and he had the power to raise it from the dead.
Jesus said he was the I AM to his people. He told them before abraham was I AM.
This is how God told moses to call him, the I AM who sent moses to get israel out of egypt.
Jesus in his vision to John says he is the first and the last in Revelation 22:13..
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
The hebrew for this says
thus says Jehovah King of Israel and his redeemer jehovah of his hosts, I am the first and last, besides me there is no elohim.
Jehovah God but two entities. Jehovah king of Israel we know as the father, and his redeemer Jehovah of his hosts we know as Jesus.
Elohim is the plural for Gods.
Jehovah is called the elohim God.
During creation in Genesis chapter one when God created man he said let us make man in our image.
God is one God but three entities, Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit.
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Originally Answered: Holy Spirit/Trinity?
In explaining His relationship to God and the Holy Spirit, Jesus on several opportunities made statements that later became difficult to understand.
The controversy got so bad and violence between Christians so terrible that it was decided to resolve it adopting the dogma of the Trinity.
But here is an analogy that may explain what Jesus meant when He spoke on different opportunities of the relation between Him, His Father and the Holy Spirit.
Consider the sun and a perfectly polished, pure mirror looking at the sun. The sun represents God, the pure mirror reflecting the rays of the sun the "manifestation of God" in this case Jesus and the rays of the sun coming from the sun and reflected in the mirror the Holy Spirit.
If the mirror says that the sun is in me, it is absolutely correct. But if the mirror says that the sun is mightier that me and has a knowledge that I do not possess it is also correct. Because the mirror is just reflecting the rays of the sun.
If the mirror says that who has seen me has seen the sun, it is also correct because the sun is reflected inside the mirror. However the sun is never physically inside the mirror.
If you look at all the passages where Jesus mentions His relation to the Father and the Holy Spirit you will find that this analogy stands true. Best of all it is not necessary to make a dogma to explain it.